C: I was having a discussion with some people yesterday regarding couples living together before vows are exchanged and marriage proposals. It stemmed from the last episode of RHOA. The people I was talking to said Damon didn't need to talk to Sheree before asking for her daughters hand in marriage and that talking to just Bob was fine. They also said that Sheree was wrong for asking him if he was sure that he wanted to get married because the question of how serious he felt about her daughter should have been asked before they moved in together because moving in together is a big step that's supposed to lead to marriage. I completely disagreed and said it's disrespectful to not discuss your intentions to marry someone's child with their parents beforehand and that a parent does not need to question how someone feels about their child before a proposal is pending? Just because a couple decides to live together does not mean it will lead to marriage. One person's argument was that you shouldn't live with anyone you don't plan to marry and also said that they don't think it's necessary for a man to discuss his desire to marry her with her parents. What is your take on this? I wouldn't marry any man who didn't talk to my parents first or at least my mom since she was my primary guardian. How the hell did Damon think just talking to Bob was good enough? WTF?!
T: 1. I totally support living with your marriage candidate before actually committing. Its 2012 and I'm pretty sure Jesus supports proactive planning more than he does divorce plus I did it for 2 years and I liked it that way. Shacking up should be required. People expose themselves when you live with them...otherwise you fall in love with their representative.
2. I think Sheree's motives and push was way off in left field. She kept talking to this young man about the size and price on the ring, talking money blah blah blah. It seems like her daughter and Damon are regular, humble average people much as you and I were when we were in that phase and she's trying to make her daughter the newest RHOA. Damon seems like a genuine young man and I think the reason he pulled back was because of Sheree's obscene influence over the proposal and the ring.
3. I agree that if the young lady who a man plans to marry has a relationship with her parents, it would be who of him to express his intentions but I think this is case by case. Apparently there was some drama over why Sheree didn't acknowledge her oldest daughter in previous seasons and certainly Damon has the inside scoop and perhaps knowing that she had a healthier relationship with Bob, decided to only approach him. I think there is a lot of back story with their particular situation.
C: 1. I totally agree
2. I don't like Damon. I think he's rude, disrespectful, and a bxtch for saying he no longer wants to propose if the reason behind is that Sheree scared him by making him think he needed to get Tiara an expensive ring. The only person who's truly affected by that is Tiara. He knows the conversation they've had between each other as it relates to getting married, that Tiara probably doesn't expect a Kim K ring, and how much money he has. My take on the situation has less to do with the ring and more to do with the fact that he realized he's only twenty something years old and doesn't want to get divorced so he wants to wait until he's 100% sure that he's ready to commit to one woman for the rest of his life. He already knew what kind of woman Sheree is and whose daughter he's with so he shouldn't have cared how Sheree felt about a ring if she wasn't going to pay for it. Regular people cannot afford lavish rings in the tens of thousands of dollars range.
3. I think if a man has ever met the parent(s) of the woman he wishes to marry, he should ask them for their blessing. I don't think there was any real drama between Sheree and her daughter just because she wasn't shown in the first episode. When the first season aired Tiara was still in college I think and if she was away at school, she couldn't have been on the show because she didn't live in the house. I have no reason to believe Tiara is closer to Bob than her mom. I just think Damon's a jack-asss who needs to get his shxt together and man up.
T: 1. ok, we're good
2. I didn't get the vibe that he wasn't going to do it at all- I got the vibe that she was pissing him off so he wanted to do it on his own merit without all of Sheree's influence. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn about a quiet proposal by the end of the season.
3. There were actually stories floating around regarding real life drama between mother and daughter...I know you aren't part of the blogosphere. So lets say a man meets his girlfriends father at a cookout but the father wasn't a part of her life growing up and maybe just got reconnected within the last year or so...why should this young man feel inclined to ask the father for his blessing? As the girlfriend, I wouldn't want my father's opinion injected into the process considering our past.
C: 2. I think for a man to tell someone's mother that he plans to be drunk off his asss before proposing to their daughter a) makes him a douc*e bag and b) means he's not ready despite whoever's influence. If I were Tiara and saw his foolishness after the season wrapped I would break up with him. He probably has no real, no money, and definitely lacks b*lls so she needs to start dating again
3. Nope. I don't know shxt about who said what in the blog world but from their interactions on the show, they seem to have a good relationship and that's all I'm going off of.
b) If a woman and her father currently have a relationship despite their past and the man she's dating has met her father, then he should ask for her father's blessing. It's not his permission because the woman will decide if she wants to marry the man but it's respectful to get the blessing of the parent(s). Even if your parents hate your man, at least he was man enough to do his part now you all can ride off into the sunset together if you choose to.
T: Yeah I think the drinking comments should have been something he said to his friends and not her mom.